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2014 Scottish independence referendum

2014 Scottish independence referendum154 posts

Result at 55-45 for No

After five declarations – the local authorities of Clackmannanshire, Orkney, Shetland, Eilean Siar and Inverclyde – the total stands at 55% for No to 45% for Yes.

Eilean Siar: No 53%-47%

Eilean Siar (formerly the Western Isles) votes No by 10,444 or 53% to 9,195, 47%. Turnout is 86%. The Yes campaign had previously expected to win the area.

BBC: No Devo Max

Sources tell the BBC that the new powers promised to Holyrood do not represent ‘maximum devolution’:

Glasgow turnout 75%

Glasgow voter turnout is reported at 75%. The city is considered a Yes stronghold due to the large working-class vote, but Unionist sources say they may have still lost the area much lower despite a much lower turnout than in other areas that have already reported.

Campaign observers watch vote counts

Observers from both campaigns at the count for rural Aberdeenshire, held in the Aberdeen Exhibition and Conference Centre, watch election officials unfold and stack up the ballot papers from particular polling stations to check the number of ballot papers matches the number of votes, and tally up a rough indication of how the vote went in those areas. The observers have been out on the ground and will have an idea of what to expect from each area, so they can measure their rough counts against what they might have expected from a certain village. The process is for a sample indication.

Clackmannashire: No 54-46

The first local total announced is Clackmannashire – the result shows No wins with 19,036 votes or 54%, while Yes has 16,350 votes, or 46%.

Dorking independence campaign

The Dorking and Leatherhead Advertiser leads a campaign for an independent council for the Surrey commuter town of Dorking:

While the decision will not have the same long-lasting effects as the vote on Scottish independence, councillors, business leaders and leading community figures could soon ask townsfolk if they would be in favour of establishing a new council to bring more powers to a local level.
It says an online poll found the majority of people would be in favour of bringing a town council to Dorking, depending on how much they would have to pay.

Counting begins

Counting begins of ballot papers by the 5,767-strong national counting team and the total will be reported to national chief counting officer Mary Pitcaithly, who will approve the local counting officer in each of the 32 local authorities across Scotland to announce the turnout. Papers will be sorted into Yes, No and doubtful, which will need to be judged and may have to be discarded. The results will be declared in each individual counting area and when all the totals are in, Pitcaithly will announce the final result.

Polls shut

Polls shut across the country at 10 p.m. local time (5 p.m. EDT) and ballot boxes begin to be delivered to counting centers Scotland’s 32 local authorities.

Cameron speech

Cameron says the referendum is the ‘settled will’ of the Scottish public:

I am a passionate believer in our United Kingdom – I wanted more than anything for our United Kingdom to stay together. But I am also a democrat. And it was right that we respected the SNP’s majority in Holyrood and gave the Scottish people their right to have their say. Let us also remember why it was right to ask the definitive question, Yes or No. Because now the debate has been settled for a generation or as Alex Salmond has said, perhaps for a lifetime. So there can be no disputes, no re-runs – we have heard the settled will of the Scottish people.

He congratulates both sides:

Scotland voted for a stronger Scottish Parliament backed by the strength and security of the United Kingdom and I want to congratulate the No campaign for that – for showing people that our nations really are better together. I also want to pay tribute to Yes Scotland for a well-fought campaign and to say to all those who did vote for independence: ‘we hear you’.

He promises broader powers for the Scottish parliament in Holyrood as well as for Wales and Northern Ireland, and says England should also be a part of that debate:

The question of English votes for English laws – the so-called West Lothian question – requires a decisive answer. So, just as Scotland will vote separately in the Scottish Parliament on their issues of tax, spending and welfare so too England, as well as Wales and Northern Ireland, should be able to vote on these issues and all this must take place in tandem with, and at the same pace as, the settlement for Scotland.

Scotland votes No 55%-45%

Scottish voters reject independence by a margin of 55% to 45%. With the results in from all 32 council areas, the No side wins with 2,001,926 votes compared with 1,617,989 for Yes.

YouGov poll: ‘No’ 54%-46%

YouGov publishes its final poll on the referendum, re-contacting 1,828 voters who had participated in a previous poll earlier in the week after they have left the polling booth and assessing 800 people who have already voted by post. It places the No campaign ahead of Yes by 54% to 46%. 10% of No voters say they have encountered Yes voters acting unreasonably at the polling booths, while 5% of Yes voters say the same about No voters.

Polls open

Polling stations at 2,608 schools and halls across Scotland open at 7 a.m. local time (2 a.m. EDT) for voting.

Concedes defeat

Concedes Defeat

Salmond concedes the referendum as the ‘democratic verdict of the people of Scotland’ in a speech at 6.15 a.m. UK time, seven minutes after the count becomes a mathematical certainty for the No vote:

Today of all days as we bring Scotland together, let us not dwell on the distance we have fallen short, let us dwell on the distance we have travelled and have confidence the movement is abroad in Scotland that will take this nation forward and we shall go forward as one nation.

He calls on pro-UK parties to deliver on their promises to devolve more powers to Scotland:

Scotland will expect these to be honoured in rapid course – as a reminder, we have been promised a second reading of a Scotland Bill by March 27 next year. Not just the 1.6 million Scots who voted for independence will demand that timetable is followed but all Scots who participated in this referendum will demand that timetable is followed.

Final result: No wins

The result is confirmed as a mathematical certainty at 6:08 a.m. UK time (1:08 a.m. EDT) as the chief counting officer in Fife county announces the district votes No. Fife voters vote against independence 55% to 45%. The turnout is 84% of the area’s 302,165 electorate.

McAvoy: Don’t vote based on politics

McAvoy avoids taking a side but warns of making permanent decisions based on political agendas:

I don’t trust politicians at all, and I don’t really think that actors, i.e. professional liars, are the best people to be commenting and to be backing up other professional liars, i.e. politicians. I’ll go with my country no matter what way they vote, I just hope that my country follows its heart and its gut rather than listening to redundant political debate. If you vote one way or another because you believe in some political promise, five or 10 years from now it’s going to be a new guy in that chair with a different political agenda — and you have voted to change your country forever because of a semi-permanent promise made by some guy who may or may not deliver.

17 Sep, 2014

Would love to say Yes, but can’t

Branson tells 5 News that he would love to endorse Scottish independence, but the uncertainty for Scotland and the UK is too great:

The rogue in me would love to say yes but the pragmatic entrepreneur has looked at [it] and I firmly believe Scottish people should remain part of the UK but have a lot more powers devolved to them

A big risk is higher taxes choking any benefit from independent economic policies to create jobs:

There is enormous wealth pouring into Britain from overseas, a lot of great businesses setting up… and a lot of those tax benefits will not be forthcoming to Scotland. My wife is from Glasgow, my mother is from Edinburgh, they both said if we had done it 30 years ago they would have voted yes. But it’s doing it near the end of the oil flows and there’s just not enough assets for Scotland to fall back on.

Undecided votes don’t affect polls

Market research firm Ipsos MORI says the approximately 10% of voters that have consistently said in polls that they are undecided on independence shouldn’t present a challenge to the survey providers – when questioned on which way they are leaning, they split down the middle and move the outcome by less than 0.1 point. A bigger challenge is whether one side’s supporters are more likely to turn out than the other’s – the younger, working-class demographic of Yes voters would usually be more susceptible to not showing up on the day, but the grassroots campaign and once-in-a-lifetime nature of the referendum mean turnout may well be in line with expectations. Finally, it says that some No voters may be refusing to participate in surveys – however this would result in a larger-than-expected No vote.

AreTheScotsIndependentYet.com

A Guardian-operated website at AreTheScotsIndependentYet.com promises to keep readers updated on the result. The site currently includes an animated map and text:

No

Panelbase: ‘No’ 52%-48%

The final Panelbase poll before the referendum shows that the No campaign is leading by 52% compared with 48% for Yes. This excludes undecided voters, who make up 5%. Panelbase:

We asked undecided voters to imagine that they were standing in the polling booth, and slightly more said they would vote No than Yes. Adding them to the original decided totals produces a result of Yes 47%, No 53%.

In supplementary poll questions, 35% say they believe Yes is likely to win, an increase of 7 points, and 40% believe it will be No, a decrease of 15 points:

It seems likely that this result will have been influenced by a general tightening of poll results.

McGregor: ‘No’

McGregor says independence is not worth breaking up the union:

I’m a Scotsman and I love Scotland with all my heart. But I also like the idea of Great Britain, and I don’t know that it wouldn’t be a terrible shame to break it all up.

Cox: ‘Yes’

Cox writes for CNN that he supports a Yes vote in the referendum, although he is not allowed to vote:

This vote is not about nationalism, it is about social democracy, and for myself and the people of Scotland, social democracy is at the root of our desire for Independence. An independent state of Scotland will reinforce its own laws, embrace new forms of political thinking, new creeds, new political parties, and new positions of argument. Independence will allow a new system to be put in place, and in Scotland’s case, and for the people of Scotland, a system of social equality where the yoke of the old feudal ideologies are finally dismantled.

Butler: ‘Yes’

Butler says the differences between Scotland and the UK outweigh the similarities:

I can’t see why Scotland shouldn’t be independent — it has different attitudes, people and outlook.

Connolly: ‘No’

Connolly says that remaining united is more important than politics:

It’s time for people to get together, not split apart. The more people stay together, the happier they’ll be . . . I don’t (have) great belief in the Union of England and Scotland. But I have a great belief in the union of the human race.

Ferguson: ‘Failed state’

Ferguson says the Yes movement disregards history:

Scottish history offers proof that even the most failed state can be fixed – by uniting with a richer and more tranquil neighbour.

He says the Union of the Parliaments in 1707 turned it into the Silicon Valley of the 18th century with Glasgow University as Stanford, by sublimating internal divisions in the UK. But leaving the union could reopen old divisions, and some new ones:

The reality is that, as an independent country, Scotland would be far more likely to revert to its pre-1707 bad habits than to morph magically into “Scandland”. For this debate on independence has opened some old rifts and created some new ones, too.

Manson: ‘No’

Manson says she supports staying in the United Kingdom:

I believe that this relationship is worth working at and that the many benefits of living under one roof so to speak far outweigh those of living apart.

Cumming: ‘Yes’

Cumming writes in the New York Times that No advocates in Westminster are seeking to keep Scotland’s economic assets as part of the union, while domestic supporters of the union are pessimistic:

Distilled, the essence of the choice is this: The Yes campaign is about hope for a fairer, more caring and prosperous society; the No campaign says only: better the devil you know. I am an optimist.

Smith: ‘Yes’

Smith says an independent Scotland would provide a better future:

I’m a grandmother of a 16-week-old baby. My vote for Yes is because I want to see a better place for her.

Connery: ‘Yes’

Connery says independence is the best way to secure Scotland’s future:

The Yes campaign has centred on a positive vision for Scotland. It is rooted in inclusiveness, equality and that core democratic value that the people of Scotland are the best guardians of their own future.

Mike Myers: ‘No’

Myers says Scotland should stay in the union:

I love Scotland. I hope they remain part of Britain – and if they don’t, I still love them.

Sun supports neither side

The Murdoch-owned Scottish Sun adopts2014-scottish-referendum-sun-leader a neutral stance in its editorial ahead of the independence referendum. It says the referendum is ‘Your Voice, Your Choice, Your Vote,’ and leads with pictures of Darling and Salmond both smiling. Headline:

Britain’s Got Talent v. The Ecks Factor

Leader: We believe in the people of Scotland to make the right decision. Whichever you choose, the Scottish Sun will continue to fight for you and our Scottish principles.

Polls show ‘No’ ahead 52%-48%

A series of polls show the No campaign leading by four points shortly ahead of the referendum. The Opinium/Daily Telegraph, Survation/Daily Mail and ICM/Scotsman surveys all show voters favor remaining in the union by 52% to 48%. They each show a small movement to Yes in recent days, but place the No side ahead within the margin of error.

Brown: SNP lying about NHS independence

Brown says the SNP are ‘perpetrating a lie’ about protecting the NHS with independence, as Holyrood already has the power to keep the health service public:

The Scottish Parliament can keep the NHS in public hands with its existing powers. If the SNP continue to say they are powerless to protect the NHS in Scotland, let them make way for a Labour government in Scotland and we will protect the NHS.

He says Labour would not allow the NHS to be privatised:

It is the SNP who are perpetrating a lie about what the NHS can and cannot do in Scotland. Over these next few hours, you must remind the people in Scotland the NHS has the powers and the Scottish Parliament has the powers to fund the health service, to protect the health service, to stop any privatisation, and to keep the health service in public hands.

Document ‘shows Scottish NHS cuts’

A document is said to show that the Scottish NHS is facing cuts of $733 million between 2015 and 2017. It says that the health service faces cuts of 210 million pounds in 2015-16 and 224 million pounds in 2016-17 as annual cost savings rise from 2% to 3.5%:

Significant revenue pressures will be realised in 2015-16 and 2016-17, primarily due to the combined effect of a reducing increase in baseline funding, the project impact of the pension revaluation [contribution increases] and loss of national insurance rebate and the cost of funding of the drugs budget – largely due to changes to access to rare and ultra rare drugs, availability of new treatments or extending use to new indications.

The savings come in addition to cuts during the current fiscal year:

The total savings required will be £400million-to-£450million in addition to savings required in 2014-15. Limited time is available to plan for 2015-16 and 2016-17 and immediate action is required to collectively assess the options that will ensure that NHS Scotland can operate within its overall allocation and that we can continue to provide quality, safe and effective care to our constituent populations.

Ipsos MORI poll: ‘No’ 51%-49%

An Ipsos MORI poll for STV shows support for the No campaign at 51% ahead of the referendum, and support for Yes at 49%. When the 5% of undecided voters are included the margins shift to 49% No, down five point since August, and 47% Yes, up seven points. Ipsos MORI:

Turnout for the referendum is now likely to be extremely high, with 95% telling us that they are certain to vote (up by 14 points from August). While this figure is higher, as expected, with those aged 55 and over (97%) it is very high across all age groups, including those aged 16-24, where 90% say they are certain to vote.

‘No-one can stop Scotland using the pound’

Makes Statement

Salmond says that an independent Scotland would continue to use the pound:

All this stuff about being able to be vetoed from using the pound actually isn’t true. No one can stop us from using (it) … It’s sensible – England is our biggest trading partner, and Scotland is England’s second-biggest trading partner after the U.S. There will be a common sense agreement for a common currency.

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